{"id":1658,"date":"2010-05-28T21:56:29","date_gmt":"2010-05-28T20:56:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.decisionsciencenews.com\/?p=1658"},"modified":"2010-05-30T22:52:35","modified_gmt":"2010-05-30T21:52:35","slug":"tuesdays-child-is-full-of-probability-puzzles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.decisionsciencenews.com\/?p=1658","title":{"rendered":"Tuesday&#8217;s child is full of probability puzzles"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>COUNTERINTUITIVE PROBLEM, INTUITIVE REPRESENTATION<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.decisionsciencenews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/emptyGrid.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1660  aligncenter\" title=\"emptyGrid\" src=\"http:\/\/www.decisionsciencenews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/emptyGrid.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"515\" height=\"387\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.decisionsciencenews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/emptyGrid.png 515w, https:\/\/www.decisionsciencenews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/emptyGrid-300x225.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 515px) 100vw, 515px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Blog posts about counterintuitive probability problems generate lots of opinions with a high probability.<\/p>\n<p>Andrew Gelman and readers <a href=\"http:\/\/www.stat.columbia.edu\/~cook\/movabletype\/archives\/2010\/05\/hype_about_cond.html\">have been having a lot of fun<\/a> with the following probability problem:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I have two children. One is a boy born on a Tuesday. What is the probability I have two boys? The first thing you think is &#8220;What has Tuesday got to do with it?&#8221; Well, it has everything to do with it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>DSN <a href=\"http:\/\/www.stat.columbia.edu\/~cook\/movabletype\/archives\/2010\/05\/another_argumen.html\">agrees with Andrew that one virtue<\/a> of the &#8220;population-distribution&#8221; method is that it forces one to be explicit about various aspects of the problem, and in so doing, causes much confusion to disappear.<\/p>\n<p>As a public service this week, Decision Science News presents the population-distribution representation of the problem (what it thinks of as the <a href=\"http:\/\/library.mpib-berlin.mpg.de\/ft\/gg\/GG_How_1995.pdf\">Gigerenzerian \/ Hoffragian<\/a> \/ <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0805832823?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=decisionscien-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0805832823\">Peter Sedlmeier<\/a>-ian <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=decisionscien-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0805832823\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" \/>representation of the problem) in a visual form.<\/p>\n<p>To follow the logic, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.stat.columbia.edu\/~cook\/movabletype\/archives\/2010\/05\/hype_about_cond.html\">see Andrew&#8217;s post on how he solved the problem<\/a>. Voila:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.decisionsciencenews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/fullGrid.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1659  aligncenter\" title=\"fullGrid\" src=\"http:\/\/www.decisionsciencenews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/fullGrid.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"519\" height=\"391\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.decisionsciencenews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/fullGrid.png 519w, https:\/\/www.decisionsciencenews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/fullGrid-300x226.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 519px) 100vw, 519px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Red means &#8220;outside the reference class&#8221;. Yellow means &#8220;in the reference class but not boy-boy&#8221;. Green means &#8220;inside the reference class and boy-boy&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Boy-boy in the reference class occurs with probability Green \/ (Green + Yellow) or 13 \/27<\/p>\n<p>NOTE<br \/>\nTo see why DSN calls these Gigerenzerian \/ Hoffragian \/ Sedlmeierian representations, see:<\/p>\n<p>Sedlmeier, P. (1997). BasicBayes: A tutor system for simple Bayesian inference.<br \/>\n<strong>Behavior Research Methods, Instruments &amp; Computers, 29(3)<\/strong>, 328-336.<\/p>\n<p>Gigerenzer, G., &amp; Hoffrage, U. (1995). How to improve Bayesian reasoning without instruction: Frequency formats. <strong>Psychological Review, 102,<\/strong>, 684\u2013704.<\/p>\n<p>(Sorry for not using R, excel is just darn fast for some things)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>COUNTERINTUITIVE PROBLEM, INTUITIVE REPRESENTATION Blog posts about counterintuitive probability problems generate lots of opinions with a high probability. Andrew Gelman and readers have been having a lot of fun with the following probability problem: I have two children. One is a boy born on a Tuesday. What is the probability I have two boys? 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